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Why are you tearing them down?
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-Get the fuck out of my face.
-Innocent people were kidnapped.
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[foreign language]
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-All right, I think that's good.
-Have a good day.
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Fuck you, fuck you,
and burn in hell.
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Bring them home!
Bring them home!
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When I see people
tearing them down,
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I don't understand.
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It's not something political.
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These people are being exploited
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to get support for a genocidal
war against Palestinians.
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(somber music)
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This is about 75-plus years
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of a settler colonial state.
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It's hard for me
to think about this individual
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ripping down this poster
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and going home and feeling
good about what they did.
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The whole purpose of putting
those was to agitate.
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It was to rile people up.
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Those people who've ripped down
posters of hostages
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reveal themselves
to have no humanity.
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(applause)
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(siren wailing)
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You're ripping down posters
of kidnapped Jewish babies
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in your little
Yasser Arafat scarves.
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Make no mistake,
the posters are propaganda.
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Of course they are.
It's a trap.
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And you're willingly
walking into the trap.
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(crowd yelling)
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(tearing noise)
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(street noises)
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(news anchor)
We start with news that broke
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over the weekend on Saturday,
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marking a dark day
in the history of Israel.
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The Islamist militant group
Hamas launched
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a surprise attack on Israel.
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(reporter)
Under the cover of the missiles,
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a large-scale
infiltration began,
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as Hamas militants
crossed by land, sea, and air.
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The gunmen tore
through the streets,
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leaving a trail
of casualties behind.
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At least 1,200 Israelis
are said to have died.
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(Liam)
On the evening of October 6th,
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I was actually
on a friend's couch.
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(soft music)
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My cousin Sharon
lives in Nir Oz,
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which is only
a mile away from Gaza.
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(she laughs)
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(Liam) So, usually,
everyone checks up on her
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to see if she's okay.
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Sharon was not answering
her phone.
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And I heard also
at the same time
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that my cousin Danielle,
who is Sharon's sister,
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was visiting for the weekend.
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(all) Mazel Tov!
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Yeah, we kind of just
sat around watching the news,
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desperate for information,
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waiting and trying
to be hopeful.
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...in Southern Israel,
but what is more concerning
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is these infiltrations
of militants,
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and we are hearing harrowing
reports from Israeli civilians
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who have been
barricading themselves
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in their bomb shelters,
in their safe rooms,
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going on the airwaves, calling,
pleading, begging for help.
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I kept telling my brother,
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"Oh, it's okay,
there just isn't, um...
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there just isn't service
within the mamad (safe-room)."
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I...I had to make myself believe
that everything was okay.
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And then, we got
the horrific voice note.
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And that was the last voice note
that she sent to her family.
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(Liam)
I was just scrolling on TikTok,
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and I came across this video
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of what looked to be
Israelis on a tractor
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with Hamas terrorists
around them,
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bringing them into Gaza.
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(shouting)
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(Alana)
When I spotted her in the video,
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I had no doubt in my mind
that it was her.
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Sharon was just here,
in New York,
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and she came to my home,
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and I did her hair
in my kitchen,
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and so, it was
really a fresh memory
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of her hair
and the back of her head.
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Six of my family members
were taken hostage by Hamas.
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It was...
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It's really hard
to put into words, um...
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In a way, I think I...
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I just tried to not think
of the worst.
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Tonight, dozens of Israelis
who lived in these communities
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are still missing
and believed to be kidnapped.
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(Alana)
My family is honestly...
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I know people say this,
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but the warmest, most loving,
funny, kind, generous.
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-And who's this here?
-That's Amelia.
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Right before was Danielle, um...
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They're babies, I mean,
they're children.
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Like, what can I say?
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They're beautiful,
and they're funny,
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and they're silly little kids,
you know?
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Like, look at her,
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she's making a little heart
with her hands.
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(Liam)
That's Sharon right there.
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(Alana)
Sharon and David and the twins.
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(interviewer)
Liam, what would you say
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to the people holding
your family hostage right now?
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Those terrorists?
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(Liam)
These are human beings,
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and I'm begging them
to please release them.
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Please.
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(traffic noises)
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I started to spot
these posters around, um,
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to see that other people
cared about them,
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without even me asking them
to care about them, was...
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something that really
helped me get through
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every day since October 7th.
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It meant, like,
the world to me,
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uh, to see that people cared.
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(soft, tense music)
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(television reporter)
During the raid, some fighters
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also took Israelis as hostages.
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Literally dragging people
across the border with Gaza,
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including a Holocaust survivor
in a wheelchair.
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(shouting, screaming)
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♪
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We are here at 95th and Lex
posting these.
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(dramatic music)
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(tape stretching)
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♪
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♪
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The posters are popping up on
street corners across New York
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and other cities
around the world.
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They show Israelis
who have gone missing
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or are being held hostage.
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(television reporter)
Posters of the hostages taken
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by the Hamas monsters
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are plastered
just about everywhere.
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(television reporter 2)
Little Raz might be from Israel,
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but her photo and story
is reaching
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all corners of the city,
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along with hundreds of others
who are now missing.
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(mournful music)
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♪
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I couldn't focus on
my day-to-day at all,
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or anything mundane.
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Um, it was immediately action.
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I took off from my job,
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so I wasn't really
doing anything else,
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other than thinking
about this conflict, my family.
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I began to put up these posters
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basically every day
throughout New York.
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It kind of became my mission.
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(horns honk,
distant siren wails)
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(Nina) I learned about
the poster campaign
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fairly early on.
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The hardest ones to see
were the children,
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the Cunio twins,
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the Bibas babies,
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and the one that really hit home
on a very personal level
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was Noya Dan.
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Noya was autistic,
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and that was personal,
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because I have a son
who's autistic.
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I just remember thinking,
"Oh, my God!"
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And I had the same thought
her mother apparently had,
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which was, "Thank God
she was with her grandmother.
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Thank God she was
with someone who loved her,"
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even in that worst
of all possible circumstances.
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(dark music)
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I went from the sort
of "Oh, my God" horror
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to, "Okay, you can't sit there
and curse the darkness.
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What are you gonna do?"
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One of the things
that I was so curious about,
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uh, seeing the posters go up
all over the place,
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is why it was that people
spontaneously were doing this.
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♪
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The effects of post-traumatic
stress disorder
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are sometimes mitigated
if, during a trauma,
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someone takes action.
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And I think
this is one of the reasons
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why people felt instinctively
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that they needed
to do something.
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Even people who had never met
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those people
who were taken hostages,
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they are all re-enacting
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that first action that family
members and friends were doing,
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which was, "We are looking
for our loved ones.
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We're trying to find them.
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Does anybody know
where they are?"
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♪
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I really didn't do much
in regards to hanging posters.
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I...I barely had energy
to eat or shower.
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(sentimental music)
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On October 7th, after my mom
woke me up that morning,
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I just saw,
I couldn't even tell you
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how many people posting,
"Come Home, Omer."
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I don't think my body
was ready or meant
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to feel
that amount of pain or grief.
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Omer had been taken hostage.
I grew up with Omer,
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so, even though
we didn't talk frequently,
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the bond was still
very prevalent.
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(boy)
So, what's your theme?
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(Julia) I think we should do
a pirate theme for "Arrgh" C.
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(Omer) That's gonna be
a "no" for me.
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(Julia laughs)
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(Julia) I was grieving,
which was a very strange thing
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to kind of grieve
a person that is still alive.
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And I was so grateful for
the people who'd put up posters.
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It made me feel less alone.
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Like, it reminded me
of all of our memories,
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'cause in all the pictures,
he's smiling,
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which is very
on-brand for him.
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And then you realize
why you're seeing his face,
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and it just kind of
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takes the floor out
from under you every time.
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♪
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(protestor) Avigail was taken
as hostage all by herself
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after both of her parents
were murdered,
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and her siblings stayed alive
only because
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they, uh, stayed in the closet
for almost 10 hours.
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We got to know her
as a three-year-old,
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but today,
she's already four years old.
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And, as surreal as it is,
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we know
that when she'll come out,
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we want her to know
that we celebrated her birthday.
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(all)
♪ Happy Birthday to you ♪
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♪ Happy birthday,
dear Avigail ♪
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♪ Happy Birthday to you ♪
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-Bring them home now!
-Bring them home now!
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(chanting continues)
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(grim music)
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♪
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(protestor 1) Mr. Secretary,
you can bring them!
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(protestor 2) Guterres,
we ask you to save our children!
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-May I?
-Yes, you may.
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♪
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-How do you...
-You just hold it, just...
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Well, first of all,
I want to say
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that I have enormous respect
for your pain.
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If I was prime minister...
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♪
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namely, of Israel today,
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my main priority would be
the release of hostages.
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(distant explosions)
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(news anchor) The skyline
of Gaza shrouded in smoke
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as Israeli strikes
pummel residential buildings...
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(explosion, shouting)
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...mosques that
the Israeli military said
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housed Hamas command centers,
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and tunnels long suspected
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to be smuggling routes
for weapons.
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Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed
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to destroy the ability
of Hamas and Islamic Jihad
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to govern and carry out
military attacks,
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an effort he warns
will be long and difficult.
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(murmuring, faint birdsong)
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(woman) A thousand
kidnapped Palestinians!
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A thousand
kidnapped Palestinians!
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(solemn music)
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There was a large gathering
through Midtown,
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through the rain,
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New Yorkers
taking to the streets.
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This was a unity march of sorts.
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It did feature pro-Israeli,
pro-Palestinian supporters,
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a peaceful protest,
but there were over 100 arrests,
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but things did remain peaceful.
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♪
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(protestor) Yesterday, 14
of my family members were killed
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in the church bombing!
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(crowd chanting)
Stop bombing Gaza!
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Stop bombing Gaza!
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(chanting continues)
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♪
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When I was putting up
these posters,
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it would spark
a lot of conversation.
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People cried to me
and I cried to them
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on the middle of the street.
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And then, also,
negative comments from people.
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This man came up to me
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and told me
that if I really cared about,
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you know, children,
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I would be putting up posters
of Palestinian children.
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And then I said,
"This is my cousin's daughter.
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She is captive in Gaza.
She's a hostage."
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Um, and he told me
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that she looks
like a white colonizer.
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♪
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(overlapping chatter)
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♪
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-Stupid assholes!
-What?
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(Nina) Whole families and babies
have been living
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in fetid tunnels underground,
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being malnourished,
getting sick,
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living with untreated wounds.
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You know what their crime was?
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Being at home
with their families.
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It's a war crime.
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If we don't protest war crimes,
what on Earth do we protest?
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Answer me that.
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Answer me why 3,000 Palestinians
have lost their lives.
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(Nina) The civilian deaths
in Gaza are a tragedy...
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-They're innocent!
-Are these the same...
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00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:08,300
(Nina) No, no, no,
hang on a second, stop!
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Not all...
excuse me, ma'am...
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♪
326
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The idea of putting up posters
of kidnapped human beings
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to call attention to them
as propaganda?
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Fine. Sign me up.
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00:21:22,848 --> 00:21:24,216
Sign me up. Absolutely.
330
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I'll join
that propaganda campaign
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any day and twice on Sunday.
332
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They need to come home.
333
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(overlapping chatter)
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♪
335
00:21:34,426 --> 00:21:36,495
(Alana) At this point,
I don't have a reaction.
336
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I just want to get them home.
337
00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:39,064
That's all I think about,
338
00:21:39,097 --> 00:21:41,133
all...all we want
is for them to come back,
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00:21:41,166 --> 00:21:43,235
and we want the world
to come with us,
340
00:21:43,268 --> 00:21:45,871
to...to help us
to bring them home.
341
00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:48,573
They are my sisters,
I grew up with them.
342
00:21:48,606 --> 00:21:50,675
I went to Israel
every summer of my life.
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00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:52,911
Sharon and Danielle
are my sisters.
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♪
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00:22:00,418 --> 00:22:01,920
(Liam) I was putting
the posters up
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in Washington Square Park,
347
00:22:04,289 --> 00:22:05,557
and as I'm walking there,
348
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:07,326
I saw these two women
walk past me
349
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,727
and kind of give me a face.
350
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,762
Hey, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
351
00:22:10,795 --> 00:22:12,931
-I'm tearing this down.
-You're taking down...
352
00:22:12,965 --> 00:22:14,466
-That's my cousin.
-Girl...
353
00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:16,501
-That is my cousin.
-Girl...
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00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:17,903
(Liam)
Do you want her to die?
355
00:22:17,936 --> 00:22:20,039
Do you care about her?
Her life?
356
00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:22,975
She's in the hands
of terrorists right now.
357
00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:26,711
Seeing it in...
live, in real time,
358
00:22:26,745 --> 00:22:29,681
it's a feeling that
I...I can't really describe,
359
00:22:29,714 --> 00:22:32,885
an anger that I've never
even felt before in my life
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00:22:32,918 --> 00:22:34,286
against another human being.
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00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:36,721
♪
362
00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:39,258
(Julia) I remember
the first time I had seen
363
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,493
that posters
had been ripped down.
364
00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:45,964
I'd walked down into
the Union Square subway station,
365
00:22:45,998 --> 00:22:47,966
and both walls when you enter
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00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,736
were lined
with all of the hostage posters,
367
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:54,706
and the left wall
was all torn down.
368
00:22:54,739 --> 00:22:57,910
Omer's poster
had been ripped in half,
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00:22:57,943 --> 00:23:00,545
like, right down the center,
um,
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00:23:00,579 --> 00:23:03,782
and I...I started digging
through the papers
371
00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:06,018
to try and find the other half.
372
00:23:06,684 --> 00:23:09,221
These two women
came up and started
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00:23:09,254 --> 00:23:12,557
putting them all back up again.
374
00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:15,693
At the time,
I genuinely thought it was just
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00:23:15,727 --> 00:23:20,498
some crazy person,
some bigoted person.
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00:23:20,532 --> 00:23:22,767
I didn't realize it was
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00:23:22,801 --> 00:23:25,770
the start
of a much bigger thing.
378
00:23:25,804 --> 00:23:27,505
(woman) What are you doing?
379
00:23:27,539 --> 00:23:29,641
Why are you ripping it?
380
00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:33,312
-This is disgrace! Look!
-You are disgusting!
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00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:39,551
♪
382
00:23:39,584 --> 00:23:42,054
(indistinct)
383
00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,555
(man)
I don't...I don't give a fuck.
384
00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:46,158
Get the fuck out of here.
You're a scumbag.
385
00:23:46,558 --> 00:23:48,994
(man)
Why are you taking those down?
386
00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:50,329
Uh...
387
00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:53,598
♪
388
00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:55,000
(she chuckles)
389
00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:57,235
(man) Why are you laughing?
That's not funny.
390
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:58,670
♪
391
00:23:58,703 --> 00:24:00,139
(woman)
Why are you ripping them down?
392
00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:02,774
-Woo!
-That's what I'm talking about!
393
00:24:02,807 --> 00:24:04,009
Yeah!
394
00:24:04,042 --> 00:24:06,278
(woman) Hey, why are you
taking this down?
395
00:24:06,311 --> 00:24:07,545
Why are you doing that?
396
00:24:07,579 --> 00:24:09,881
♪
397
00:24:09,914 --> 00:24:12,717
(woman) Would you like
to tell me your name?
398
00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:15,387
Would you like
to share what you're doing?
399
00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:16,621
♪
400
00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:18,023
(spits)
401
00:24:18,756 --> 00:24:20,959
(man) Why are you
ripping down posters?
402
00:24:20,993 --> 00:24:23,095
Karine, can I ask you,
there's been on social media
403
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:25,763
and frankly,
on news broadcasts,
404
00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:28,433
uh, a lot of videos
of individuals
405
00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:30,369
who have been
tearing down signs,
406
00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:32,704
many of these taking place
in New York City,
407
00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:37,109
of Israelis presently
being held hostage in Gaza.
408
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:39,844
There have been some tense,
um, confrontations
409
00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:41,113
that have taken place there.
410
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,481
Is the White House's view
411
00:24:42,514 --> 00:24:45,083
that these actions
should be condemned,
412
00:24:45,117 --> 00:24:47,085
the pulling of...
the pulling down of them,
413
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,088
or that that's a form
of peaceful protest?
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00:24:50,122 --> 00:24:52,790
(Karine) Look, I...
I've sort of, kind of seen
415
00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:54,159
the reporting here and there.
416
00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:55,560
I think it was
from last week, right?
417
00:24:55,593 --> 00:24:56,928
(journalist)
There have been, like,
418
00:24:56,961 --> 00:24:58,463
30 million videos
that have gone around...
419
00:24:58,497 --> 00:24:59,631
(Karine) No, I know;
I hear you. I hear you.
420
00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:01,599
I'm just not going to...
421
00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:03,335
We're not going to...
I'm not going...
422
00:25:03,368 --> 00:25:04,736
(journalist) Is that peaceful
protest to pull that down,
423
00:25:04,769 --> 00:25:06,338
or should you not be doing it?
424
00:25:06,371 --> 00:25:08,573
(Karine) I'm just not going
to go into, uh, specifics
425
00:25:08,606 --> 00:25:10,142
on that particular thing.
426
00:25:13,878 --> 00:25:17,149
(Rabbi Sarna) A colleague
of mine at NYU, Jonathan Haidt,
427
00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:22,354
has been writing and speaking
about the way
428
00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:25,157
an increased use
in social media,
429
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:27,226
particularly among the young,
430
00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:30,028
has reinforced a moral binary.
431
00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:34,433
When you go on social media,
you either see the viewpoints
432
00:25:34,466 --> 00:25:37,302
that reinforce
your own viewpoint,
433
00:25:37,335 --> 00:25:42,241
or you see the most absurd
version of the other side.
434
00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:44,676
And there is no more gray.
435
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,978
There's only a fine line
that separates
436
00:25:47,011 --> 00:25:50,249
between the colonized
and the colonizer,
437
00:25:50,282 --> 00:25:52,717
the oppressed and the oppressor.
438
00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:54,986
And within this worldview,
439
00:25:55,019 --> 00:25:59,491
any violence inflicted
on the oppressed is a crime,
440
00:25:59,691 --> 00:26:03,027
and any violence inflicted
against the oppressor
441
00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:05,297
is freedom fighting.
442
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:07,499
Seeing these faces
443
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:11,970
is the ultimate challenge
to that binary view.
444
00:26:12,003 --> 00:26:14,005
(dark music)
445
00:26:14,038 --> 00:26:19,744
♪
446
00:26:19,778 --> 00:26:21,879
(Julia)
It's very painful,
447
00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:24,116
and there's a lot of anger.
448
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:28,653
But I...I wouldn't say
I'm surprised.
449
00:26:28,686 --> 00:26:30,655
♪
450
00:26:30,688 --> 00:26:33,391
I think a lot of younger people,
451
00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,693
my generation in particular,
452
00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:38,830
you know,
we grew up on social media,
453
00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:42,700
and I...I don't like blaming
Instagram for everything.
454
00:26:42,734 --> 00:26:46,004
But, you know, I'm very...
I'm guilty of this, too.
455
00:26:46,037 --> 00:26:47,939
If I don't like
what someone's saying,
456
00:26:47,972 --> 00:26:49,308
I just unfollow them,
457
00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:50,908
and I don't have
to see it anymore.
458
00:26:50,908 --> 00:26:53,578
(woman)
♪ Into the trash you go ♪
459
00:26:53,578 --> 00:26:57,682
♪ Ceasefire now
and free Palestine ♪
460
00:26:57,715 --> 00:27:00,552
(man) What is your reasoning?
I want to hear it.
461
00:27:00,585 --> 00:27:02,287
My whole reasoning is
that my people have been
462
00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:05,524
getting slaughtered
in Palestine for years...years.
463
00:27:05,557 --> 00:27:07,859
I haven't seen a single poster
about my people.
464
00:27:07,892 --> 00:27:09,328
I haven't seen a picture
465
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:10,762
of my friend's grandmother
who got slaughtered.
466
00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:12,164
I haven't seen a picture
of his family
467
00:27:12,197 --> 00:27:13,565
that got kicked out
of their house.
468
00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:15,367
I haven't seen shit
for my people.
469
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,036
So, when I see shit for this,
I don't...I don't feel for it.
470
00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:19,704
I don't fuck with it.
471
00:27:19,737 --> 00:27:22,040
How would you feel if people
were posting shit about police
472
00:27:22,073 --> 00:27:23,308
when shit was happening?
473
00:27:23,342 --> 00:27:25,243
You know how that is,
that's not fair.
474
00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,279
The Israeli military said today
475
00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:30,948
it struck
over 450 militant targets
476
00:27:30,982 --> 00:27:32,450
in the past 24 hours.
477
00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:34,853
The Hamas-run
Health Ministry says
478
00:27:34,886 --> 00:27:38,223
more than 8,000
Palestinians have been killed,
479
00:27:38,256 --> 00:27:40,625
and the humanitarian crisis
continues.
480
00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:44,863
Al-Qassam Brigades has fired
a large barrage of rockets
481
00:27:44,896 --> 00:27:46,531
from Gaza towards Tel Aviv,
482
00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:50,101
reportedly intercepted
by the Iron Dome,
483
00:27:50,134 --> 00:27:51,870
and this is being described
484
00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:53,905
as one of the largest barrage
of rockets on Tel Aviv
485
00:27:53,938 --> 00:27:55,507
since October the 7th.
486
00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,343
The fact that those rockets
are still being fired
487
00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:02,414
is showing that Hamas
still is going strong,
488
00:28:02,447 --> 00:28:04,982
and they're trying, certainly,
to send that message
489
00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:07,719
that nothing so far
has been able
490
00:28:07,752 --> 00:28:09,888
to quash their capabilities.
491
00:28:09,921 --> 00:28:13,024
(reporter) Israel is expanding
its battle against Hamas
492
00:28:13,057 --> 00:28:16,494
with tanks on the ground
and more strikes from the sky.
493
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:19,264
The death and destruction
is widespread.
494
00:28:19,297 --> 00:28:20,699
Buildings in the Gaza Strip
495
00:28:20,732 --> 00:28:22,867
obliterated
into nothing but rubble.
496
00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:26,137
Hospitals are flooded
with Palestinian patients
497
00:28:26,170 --> 00:28:29,341
and forced to treat the injured
outside.
498
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:30,942
Do you think that genocide
against Palestinians
499
00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:32,110
-is justified?
-It's not genocide.
500
00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:33,345
Actually...
501
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:34,779
(woman) They came
into my people's country
502
00:28:34,812 --> 00:28:36,047
and they murdered us.
503
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,682
Have you heard
about colonization?
504
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:38,883
Have you heard of that?
I don't think you have.
505
00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:40,818
Go colonize somewhere else!
506
00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:43,855
Fuck Israel! Fuck you!
507
00:28:45,189 --> 00:28:46,725
Fuck your propaganda!
508
00:28:46,758 --> 00:28:48,993
(tense music)
509
00:28:49,026 --> 00:28:50,629
(man) Why are you taking
those signs down?
510
00:28:50,662 --> 00:28:52,063
Where are the Palestinians?
511
00:28:52,096 --> 00:28:53,398
(man)
So put your own sign up!
512
00:28:53,432 --> 00:28:54,799
(man 2)
Who took any Palestinians?
513
00:28:54,832 --> 00:28:56,635
(woman) Do not put signs
over our posters!
514
00:28:56,668 --> 00:28:58,102
Your posters are propaganda!
515
00:28:58,136 --> 00:28:59,571
(woman) What do you mean,
they're propaganda?
516
00:28:59,604 --> 00:29:00,838
They're using my life
for propaganda.
517
00:29:00,872 --> 00:29:01,873
(woman)
They are not.
518
00:29:01,906 --> 00:29:03,408
Let's put up...
519
00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:06,411
Let's put up the 3,000 kids
that were killed in Gaza.
520
00:29:06,445 --> 00:29:07,879
(man)
You...you can do it!
521
00:29:07,912 --> 00:29:09,381
(woman) Please stop
ripping posters down.
522
00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:11,215
These are innocent civilians
in Israel.
523
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:12,884
Fuck you, fuck Israel.
524
00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:14,386
(man) Why did you put your mask
on? You're embarrassed?
525
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,053
You're ashamed
of what you're doing?
526
00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,189
(man 2) You're supporting
genocide and ethnic cleansing.
527
00:29:18,222 --> 00:29:24,796
♪
528
00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:28,566
(Aaron) The Israeli-Palestinian
conflict has always been
529
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,569
one of the most divisive
political issues
530
00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:32,870
in the United States,
531
00:29:32,904 --> 00:29:35,407
on college campuses
and elsewhere,
532
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,709
and so,
it wasn't surprising to see
533
00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:40,244
both that people were
putting up these posters,
534
00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:44,048
and that others had
a visceral reaction to that,
535
00:29:44,081 --> 00:29:46,017
uh, and were tearing them down.
536
00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:47,686
The act of putting up a poster
537
00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:52,023
is an act
of expressing a viewpoint.
538
00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:53,792
Now, when someone else
comes along
539
00:29:53,825 --> 00:29:55,327
and rips that poster down,
540
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,662
that's really akin
to a heckler's veto, right?
541
00:29:57,696 --> 00:30:02,867
It's people deciding
what others are able to see
542
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:06,705
and what speech and views
they're able to listen to.
543
00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:09,207
(pensive music)
544
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,044
♪
545
00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:16,314
(Elisha) I think
that the hostage posters
546
00:30:16,348 --> 00:30:18,316
have a real presence
547
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:20,084
that not a lot of objects do,
548
00:30:20,117 --> 00:30:23,287
that only a photograph can have.
549
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:24,756
♪
550
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:29,361
You see photographs
of people staring out at you,
551
00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:30,595
and they're there.
552
00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:34,833
♪
553
00:30:34,866 --> 00:30:40,137
I remember the first time
I saw a ripped poster.
554
00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:42,407
Someone had really just
555
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,177
slashed the face
of Qaid Farhan al-Qadi,
556
00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:49,080
the Bedouin guard
of Kibbutz Magen.
557
00:30:49,113 --> 00:30:50,982
♪
558
00:30:51,015 --> 00:30:52,650
I couldn't look away,
at that point.
559
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:55,219
I decided to document it.
I had an old camera.
560
00:30:55,253 --> 00:30:56,588
(shutter snaps)
561
00:30:56,621 --> 00:30:58,623
You'd see spray-painted
hostage posters.
562
00:30:58,656 --> 00:31:01,025
You'd see feces, occasionally,
563
00:31:01,059 --> 00:31:03,628
and this really disturbed me...
564
00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:05,430
burned hostage posters.
565
00:31:05,463 --> 00:31:11,335
Every variety of someone's
violence against the hostages.
566
00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:13,538
And it was...
567
00:31:13,572 --> 00:31:14,806
demoralizing.
568
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:15,940
♪
569
00:31:15,973 --> 00:31:17,609
There's a certain kedushah,
570
00:31:17,642 --> 00:31:20,078
there's a certain holiness
to the hostage posters.
571
00:31:20,111 --> 00:31:24,516
So, what if I collect
all the remnants
572
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:25,784
and keep them?
573
00:31:25,817 --> 00:31:28,052
♪
574
00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:33,091
So, very quickly,
I start developing a collection.
575
00:31:33,124 --> 00:31:36,694
♪
576
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,830
I'd never considered
577
00:31:38,863 --> 00:31:43,635
how powerful
an image on the street could be.
578
00:31:43,668 --> 00:31:46,137
Not before the hostage posters.
579
00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:48,573
♪
580
00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:50,675
We just want to be seen.
581
00:31:50,708 --> 00:31:53,210
I can find something very
intellectual to say about it,
582
00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:56,848
but I'd really just rather say
that we want to be seen.
583
00:31:56,881 --> 00:31:58,683
♪
584
00:31:58,716 --> 00:32:00,118
And they want to be seen.
585
00:32:25,209 --> 00:32:28,847
Why would you rip down
posters of hostages?
586
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,250
Because it is perpetuating
a completely false narrative
587
00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:35,119
that the Israelis
are the victims,
588
00:32:35,153 --> 00:32:38,222
of which I do not promote,
uh, any violence
589
00:32:38,255 --> 00:32:39,858
towards any innocent
human being,
590
00:32:39,891 --> 00:32:41,759
regardless
of their background or beliefs.
591
00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,228
And those people that have
their pictures on those posters,
592
00:32:44,261 --> 00:32:45,597
I do not know them,
593
00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:46,931
and I do not wish
anybody who is innocent
594
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,199
any type of harm.
595
00:32:48,232 --> 00:32:50,101
It is more
of a symbolic gesture,
596
00:32:50,134 --> 00:32:52,036
because it is
pathetic propaganda
597
00:32:52,069 --> 00:32:53,471
that they are putting into,
598
00:32:53,505 --> 00:32:57,208
uh, civilian areas
that we are living in,
599
00:32:57,241 --> 00:32:59,343
and they're perpetuating
this narrative
600
00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:00,979
to keep subconsciously...
601
00:33:01,012 --> 00:33:02,213
Why don't you answer
my questions?
602
00:33:02,246 --> 00:33:03,748
Why you would rip down
603
00:33:03,781 --> 00:33:06,985
posters of people
who've been taken hostage?
604
00:33:07,018 --> 00:33:09,521
All due respect
to anybody who is suffering,
605
00:33:09,554 --> 00:33:11,956
uh, the loss of people
that they love,
606
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,892
which many people
around the world
607
00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:16,861
are currently suffering from,
but there's always a spotlight
608
00:33:16,895 --> 00:33:18,930
on a specific
demographic of people,
609
00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:21,599
because, apparently, just like
George Orwell would say,
610
00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:23,668
"Some people are more equal
than others."
611
00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:28,372
(director)
I reached out to several people
612
00:33:28,406 --> 00:33:29,541
who took down the posters...
613
00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:30,875
-Hm.
-...but they declined
614
00:33:30,909 --> 00:33:32,476
to be interviewed.
615
00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,812
I have prepared some answers
based on their statements,
616
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:37,615
so I would love for you
to read some of them,
617
00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:39,884
and then respond,
if you would like.
618
00:33:41,052 --> 00:33:43,187
"In our last conversation,
619
00:33:43,221 --> 00:33:45,623
I begged my grandfather
to stay safe.
620
00:33:46,157 --> 00:33:50,494
The very next day, an Israeli
bombing took his life.
621
00:33:50,528 --> 00:33:54,331
I loved him so deeply
and my heart is bleeding.
622
00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:57,969
These posters that portray
Israelis solely as victims
623
00:33:58,002 --> 00:33:59,437
are just about
rallying more support
624
00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:00,838
for the Israeli government,
625
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,808
not about advocating
for their return.
626
00:34:04,442 --> 00:34:08,379
As if this whole thing
started on October 7th.
627
00:34:08,412 --> 00:34:10,915
In Israel, these posters
might pressure the government
628
00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:13,551
to make deals they wouldn't
otherwise consider.
629
00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:16,354
But here in the U.S., our role
is mostly about deciding
630
00:34:16,387 --> 00:34:19,223
whether to send
more military aid to Israel.
631
00:34:19,256 --> 00:34:21,059
So, these posters
aren't really about
632
00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:22,526
bringing the hostages back.
633
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,129
They're about pushing
for more destruction."
634
00:34:25,162 --> 00:34:26,731
♪
635
00:34:26,764 --> 00:34:29,533
I actually think this is
an interesting critique.
636
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:30,902
You know, what is...
637
00:34:30,935 --> 00:34:33,605
what is the U.S. posture
toward Israel,
638
00:34:33,638 --> 00:34:36,240
toward the Palestinians,
639
00:34:36,273 --> 00:34:38,676
toward military conflict
in that part of the world?
640
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:40,378
What is the solution?
641
00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:42,080
Are there solutions?
642
00:34:42,113 --> 00:34:46,117
I mean, this could be the basis
of an actual conversation.
643
00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:48,319
But you can't have
that conversation
644
00:34:48,352 --> 00:34:50,187
just by tearing down posters,
or, frankly,
645
00:34:50,221 --> 00:34:52,289
just by putting up posters.
646
00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:54,291
(man) Excuse me,
why are you taking those off?
647
00:34:54,325 --> 00:34:55,727
Why are you taking those off?
648
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,428
Because it's causing
the conflict to be worse.
649
00:34:57,461 --> 00:34:58,930
(man)
No, it's not.
650
00:34:58,963 --> 00:35:00,498
By you taking this off,
you know what it does?
651
00:35:00,531 --> 00:35:02,566
It shows that Jewish victims
are not okay.
652
00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:03,768
My friend is
one of those people,
653
00:35:03,801 --> 00:35:05,503
and you're taking
them off?
654
00:35:05,536 --> 00:35:06,971
And that's sad, but I don't see
how that helps the conflict.
655
00:35:07,005 --> 00:35:08,640
(man 1)
It's war propaganda.
656
00:35:08,673 --> 00:35:10,108
(man 2)
Tell the world
657
00:35:10,141 --> 00:35:12,010
how you can't hold
two thoughts in your head.
658
00:35:12,043 --> 00:35:13,377
You can only care
about some people,
659
00:35:13,411 --> 00:35:14,646
but because they're Jews,
660
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,180
they don't deserve
your sympathy.
661
00:35:16,213 --> 00:35:17,649
I am not anti-Semite.
I am pro children living.
662
00:35:17,682 --> 00:35:19,250
(man 2)
You're not anti-Semite?
663
00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,485
It's propaganda, because
you're not gonna find them here,
664
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,021
so I don't know
why you put 'em up.
665
00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:24,722
-Why are you doing that?
-I don't want your cousin
666
00:35:24,756 --> 00:35:26,190
to get killed by IDF bombs.
667
00:35:26,223 --> 00:35:28,259
-Please call the police.
-It's dishonest, man.
668
00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:31,162
It's dishonest that kids were
kidnapped out of their beds?
669
00:35:31,195 --> 00:35:33,164
No, man,
that's not what I'm saying.
670
00:35:33,197 --> 00:35:36,100
So, what is dishonest
about the kidnapping poster?
671
00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:37,568
It was kidnapped, right?
672
00:35:37,601 --> 00:35:39,503
It's propaganda
to justify the murder of...
673
00:35:39,537 --> 00:35:41,873
So, were kids not kidnapped
out of their beds?
674
00:35:41,906 --> 00:35:42,807
Oh, please.
675
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,044
(soft music)
676
00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:48,046
(Chen)
I grew up in Israel.
677
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:52,183
I live in New York
for the past 30 years.
678
00:35:52,216 --> 00:35:54,118
My kids grew up here.
679
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:59,157
They have friends from all kinds
of religions, colors, like...
680
00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:01,960
It's a diverse society,
681
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,661
and I love it.
682
00:36:04,595 --> 00:36:06,998
Since October 7th,
683
00:36:07,031 --> 00:36:10,267
every morning,
I will arrive to work
684
00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:13,705
and hang the poster outside.
685
00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:15,773
And every day,
686
00:36:15,807 --> 00:36:19,643
people would come
and tear the poster.
687
00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,312
-(tearing noise)
-Why are you doing this?
688
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:25,483
(Chen) Please don't touch it.
It's private property!
689
00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:27,719
It's private property!
690
00:36:27,752 --> 00:36:31,622
There were a lot
of pro-Palestinian rallies
691
00:36:31,655 --> 00:36:33,992
right down the block
from my store.
692
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:37,361
(crowd chanting)
Intifada, Intifada!
693
00:36:37,394 --> 00:36:40,999
-Long live the Intifada!
-Long live the Intifada!
694
00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:45,436
They started to target my store
every single day.
695
00:36:45,469 --> 00:36:49,807
Excuse me, private property.
Can you please stop?
696
00:36:49,841 --> 00:36:51,575
What's your name?
697
00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:53,677
She's ripping off our sign.
698
00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:56,147
I'm sorry,
it's private property.
699
00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:58,516
-Okay. I don't give a shit.
-Okay, you done?
700
00:36:58,549 --> 00:36:59,650
You should be
ashamed of yourself!
701
00:36:59,683 --> 00:37:00,985
(Chen)
Shame on you!
702
00:37:01,019 --> 00:37:03,054
I'm putting the posters
every day,
703
00:37:03,087 --> 00:37:05,923
and I'm gonna keep putting them.
704
00:37:05,957 --> 00:37:09,093
I had to close earlier.
705
00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:11,328
Uh, we had to lock our door.
706
00:37:11,362 --> 00:37:15,099
It wasn't...it didn't feel
a safe environment.
707
00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:17,735
The police suggested
708
00:37:17,769 --> 00:37:20,938
that maybe if I move it
from the window,
709
00:37:20,972 --> 00:37:22,907
the Star of David,
710
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:29,247
it won't cause so much, um,
negative attraction
711
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,782
to our store.
712
00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:34,618
I refused, because I said,
the day I have to remove
713
00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:37,655
the Star of David
from my window,
714
00:37:37,688 --> 00:37:40,524
it's the day
I move from this country.
715
00:37:40,558 --> 00:37:43,061
(somber music)
716
00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:48,866
And they started to send me,
um, direct messages.
717
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:53,470
♪
718
00:37:53,504 --> 00:37:57,608
I was very determined
that they won't break me.
719
00:37:57,641 --> 00:37:59,043
(cell phone notification)
720
00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:01,612
♪
721
00:38:01,645 --> 00:38:05,316
I will keep putting it
until they bring them back.
722
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:06,951
The wall is back.
723
00:38:06,984 --> 00:38:10,188
And if anyone can come help us,
724
00:38:10,221 --> 00:38:13,925
we're planning to do also
this pillar.
725
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:19,763
One night, a huge crowd
of pro-Palestinian rally, um,
726
00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:22,033
came from down the block.
727
00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:23,667
(shouting, chanting)
728
00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:27,238
(protestors)
Ceasefire now!
729
00:38:27,271 --> 00:38:29,173
Ceasefire now!
730
00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:33,477
(man) Free, Free Palestine!
731
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:35,847
(protestors)
Free, Free Palestine!
732
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,416
(man)
This is private property.
733
00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:40,918
(Chen)
Stop touching!
734
00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:43,587
This is not
how you talk to people!
735
00:38:43,621 --> 00:38:44,956
Not by violence!
736
00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:46,891
(protestors)
Free, Free Palestine!
737
00:38:46,924 --> 00:38:48,860
(man)
Free, Free Palestine!
738
00:38:50,427 --> 00:38:52,596
(Chen) They tried
to break the door,
739
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:54,265
like banging on the door,
740
00:38:54,298 --> 00:38:56,033
banging on our window.
741
00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:57,068
(banging)
742
00:38:57,101 --> 00:38:59,337
I ran to the back office,
743
00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:01,105
sat on the floor
and hide there,
744
00:39:01,139 --> 00:39:03,607
and tried to call the police.
745
00:39:03,641 --> 00:39:05,343
(shouting)
746
00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:11,615
My co-worker yelled to me,
"The police is outside."
747
00:39:11,649 --> 00:39:14,919
And I'm like, "What do you mean
the police is outside?"
748
00:39:14,952 --> 00:39:17,488
(man)
Shame! Shame!
749
00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:19,924
You're a disgrace
to your grandparents!
750
00:39:19,957 --> 00:39:22,126
(shouting)
751
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,130
(Chen) Is this
how we're safe in New York?
752
00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:29,466
Is this how we're safe here?
753
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:30,734
I was shocked.
754
00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:33,771
I felt there is no one
to protect us.
755
00:39:33,804 --> 00:39:40,077
♪
756
00:39:40,111 --> 00:39:46,184
I decided for the safety
of my employees and everyone
757
00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:50,788
to take a little break
and stop putting the posters.
758
00:39:50,821 --> 00:39:54,992
I felt defeated
and I felt broken.
759
00:39:55,026 --> 00:39:58,762
♪
760
00:39:58,796 --> 00:40:02,266
(man) Fuck...fuck all you
Israeli motherfuckers.
761
00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:05,169
motherfuckers.
762
00:40:05,203 --> 00:40:07,038
Get the fuck out of here.
763
00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:10,241
(man) I'm taking it off, bitch,
you got a problem with it?
764
00:40:10,274 --> 00:40:12,243
(man)
He already threatened me.
765
00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:16,013
Get the fuck out of here.
I'll knock you the fuck out.
766
00:40:16,047 --> 00:40:18,349
Get the fuck out of here
before I punch you...
767
00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:19,750
(woman)
What the fuck?
768
00:40:19,783 --> 00:40:21,118
(woman)
Yo! Ow!
769
00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:23,120
(woman)
Hey! What...what are you doing?
770
00:40:23,154 --> 00:40:24,621
(woman)
What the fuck?
771
00:40:24,655 --> 00:40:27,291
Why did you just come up to me
and assault me?
772
00:40:27,325 --> 00:40:30,527
♪
773
00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:34,131
(Liam)
My cousin Moran told us, like,
774
00:40:34,165 --> 00:40:36,867
"Please try to go back
to your lives."
775
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:38,602
♪
776
00:40:38,635 --> 00:40:41,839
Before I went to work that week,
777
00:40:41,872 --> 00:40:45,709
that video of my cousin Danielle
came out...
778
00:40:45,743 --> 00:40:48,512
♪
779
00:40:48,545 --> 00:40:50,848
which was...
780
00:40:50,881 --> 00:40:52,483
♪
781
00:40:52,516 --> 00:40:57,221
painful
to see her look like that
782
00:40:57,255 --> 00:41:01,425
and to see her
in that situation.
783
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:38,062
(Alana) I watched it
over and over again,
784
00:41:38,095 --> 00:41:39,663
and I cried,
785
00:41:39,696 --> 00:41:42,099
and I said to myself,
786
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,868
"Well, she's alive.
787
00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:47,505
At least there's that.
It's proof of life."
788
00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:50,641
Um... And then I said,
"Of course they picked her."
789
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,543
Of course they chose my cousin.
790
00:41:52,576 --> 00:41:54,912
She's strong
and she has a voice,
791
00:41:54,945 --> 00:41:58,416
so I wasn't totally surprised,
792
00:41:58,449 --> 00:42:01,319
but there was a sense of relief
for sure.
793
00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:04,855
(Liam)
We had a sign of life.
794
00:42:06,223 --> 00:42:08,159
It was so scary, though,
795
00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:13,730
and it was almost embarrassing
that, like,
796
00:42:13,764 --> 00:42:16,233
the world was seeing my family
797
00:42:16,267 --> 00:42:22,906
in such a horrible,
vulnerable situation, uh,
798
00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:25,309
at the mercy of terrorists.
799
00:42:25,343 --> 00:42:27,811
(soft music)
800
00:42:27,845 --> 00:42:29,080
♪
801
00:42:29,113 --> 00:42:30,914
So, I had posters
that were, like,
802
00:42:30,948 --> 00:42:34,218
right outside my apartment,
that I could see from my window.
803
00:42:34,251 --> 00:42:35,686
And usually
they were torn down
804
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,056
within, you know,
12 to 24 hours.
805
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:44,328
So, I decided to go and get
a little security camera
806
00:42:44,362 --> 00:42:47,264
to see who exactly
was doing this every day.
807
00:42:47,298 --> 00:42:52,336
♪
808
00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:54,972
It was multiple people
that were doing this,
809
00:42:55,005 --> 00:42:56,874
but one guy in particular,
810
00:42:56,907 --> 00:43:01,379
you could see in the footage
that he had a knife on him.
811
00:43:01,412 --> 00:43:02,980
♪
812
00:43:03,013 --> 00:43:05,549
This wasn't, like,
just someone that was walking by
813
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:08,785
that decided in the moment
to tear down these posters.
814
00:43:08,819 --> 00:43:12,289
This person left their home,
or their job, or whatever,
815
00:43:12,323 --> 00:43:13,957
with the mission
of tearing down posters
816
00:43:13,991 --> 00:43:15,692
of kidnapped Israelis.
817
00:43:15,726 --> 00:43:16,894
♪
818
00:43:16,927 --> 00:43:19,597
I put it on my social media,
819
00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:23,967
and immediately
the video blows up,
820
00:43:24,001 --> 00:43:27,438
gets thousands of views.
821
00:43:27,471 --> 00:43:29,006
Then, there were people
that were identifying
822
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,041
the individual
on the video, too.
823
00:43:31,074 --> 00:43:33,644
My intention
wasn't to cancel these people
824
00:43:33,677 --> 00:43:34,878
or dox these people.
825
00:43:34,912 --> 00:43:36,547
It was just to show
the world that...
826
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:39,650
what's happening
to people like me.
827
00:43:39,683 --> 00:43:42,853
(reporter) Dr. Ahmed ElKoussa,
a South Florida dentist,
828
00:43:42,886 --> 00:43:45,289
seen here in Brickell
taking down posters
829
00:43:45,322 --> 00:43:48,592
of Israelis
kidnapped by Hamas.
830
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:50,461
There was outrage
over this video,
831
00:43:50,494 --> 00:43:52,696
and Dr. ElKoussa
was swiftly fired
832
00:43:52,729 --> 00:43:54,932
from his job at CG Smile.
833
00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:57,701
-You fired him right away.
-Right away, without hesitation.
834
00:43:57,734 --> 00:44:00,438
(reporter) Now, the dentist
giving his side to the story.
835
00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:03,574
Unfortunately,
my video of four seconds
836
00:44:03,607 --> 00:44:05,709
gotten taken
way out of context, uh,
837
00:44:05,742 --> 00:44:08,946
as well as the way
that my former employer
838
00:44:08,979 --> 00:44:10,448
had portrayed it.
839
00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,184
A woman was filmed
at an upscale shopping center
840
00:44:13,217 --> 00:44:16,320
removing posters
of Israeli children
841
00:44:16,353 --> 00:44:18,189
who have been taken hostage.
842
00:44:18,222 --> 00:44:23,327
She has been identified
as a doctor named Zena Al-Adeeb,
843
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,296
and she has now been fired.
844
00:44:25,329 --> 00:44:27,998
One of the NYU students
was caught ripping down posters
845
00:44:28,031 --> 00:44:31,569
of Israeli hostages has been
identified by her NYU peers
846
00:44:31,602 --> 00:44:33,136
as Hafiza Khalique.
847
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:34,838
So, do you guys think
the school should expel them?
848
00:44:34,871 --> 00:44:37,174
So, after I was filmed
tearing down these posters
849
00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:38,875
outside of Tisch Hall, um,
850
00:44:38,909 --> 00:44:42,279
a student at NYU circulated
the video on social media, um,
851
00:44:42,313 --> 00:44:44,615
and she was calling
for us to be doxxed.
852
00:44:44,948 --> 00:44:47,884
Uh, shortly after,
celebrities, public figures,
853
00:44:47,918 --> 00:44:50,854
and Zionist platforms
with millions of followers
854
00:44:50,887 --> 00:44:53,390
were sharing
our information publicly.
855
00:44:53,424 --> 00:44:56,660
Under the petition that was
calling for me to be expelled,
856
00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:58,295
along with the other students,
857
00:44:58,329 --> 00:45:01,064
people said that they are
pulling their donations if NYU
858
00:45:01,098 --> 00:45:03,467
does not take disciplinary
measures against us.
859
00:45:03,501 --> 00:45:07,238
So, it's clear that,
even NYU admits it,
860
00:45:07,271 --> 00:45:08,972
that relevant stakeholders
861
00:45:09,006 --> 00:45:12,276
and people
with wealth and power
862
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:15,012
are the reason
why I was suspended.
863
00:45:15,045 --> 00:45:18,716
"It was Saturday night
and I was at home watching TV
864
00:45:18,749 --> 00:45:21,485
when my phone started buzzing
with messages.
865
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,255
That's when I discovered
that someone had filmed me
866
00:45:24,288 --> 00:45:27,157
when I was taking down
a kidnapped poster,
867
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:30,093
and that video made its way
to an Instagram account
868
00:45:30,127 --> 00:45:33,063
that decided
to name and shame me.
869
00:45:33,096 --> 00:45:36,267
I hoped the storm would pass,
but by Monday morning,
870
00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:39,270
emails were flooding
my organization's inbox
871
00:45:39,303 --> 00:45:43,307
demanding I be fired,
calling me an anti-Semite.
872
00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:45,842
A few days later,
I was fired.
873
00:45:45,876 --> 00:45:47,344
♪
874
00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:51,282
Even after I was fired,
the direct messages kept coming.
875
00:45:51,315 --> 00:45:53,317
Dozens of emails
with death threats
876
00:45:53,350 --> 00:45:55,419
and threats
of sexual violence.
877
00:45:55,452 --> 00:45:57,421
All I did was take down
a piece of paper
878
00:45:57,454 --> 00:46:01,792
that I believed hurt everyone
and stood for nothing."
879
00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:02,859
♪
880
00:46:02,893 --> 00:46:05,228
This is a very disturbing story.
881
00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:10,233
Um, I do think taking down
a poster, in and of itself,
882
00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:12,703
should not be
a fireable offense.
883
00:46:12,736 --> 00:46:18,509
I think it...
it reduces the space
884
00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,711
for people
to express themselves.
885
00:46:20,744 --> 00:46:22,613
I do think
there were instances
886
00:46:22,646 --> 00:46:25,449
where people
should have been fired,
887
00:46:25,482 --> 00:46:30,421
people who expressed heinous,
violent, hateful views.
888
00:46:30,454 --> 00:46:31,922
But in this instance,
889
00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:34,758
it seems to me
that an injustice was committed
890
00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:36,627
against this person
who had a right.
891
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:38,295
I mean, I disagree
with how this person
892
00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:41,432
chose to express his opposition,
his or her opposition.
893
00:46:41,465 --> 00:46:44,000
And calling
the hostage posters
894
00:46:44,034 --> 00:46:45,536
"hurting everyone
and standing for nothing,"
895
00:46:45,569 --> 00:46:51,508
to me, is kind of
an obnoxious critique and, um...
896
00:46:51,542 --> 00:46:53,644
But people are entitled
to be obnoxious.
897
00:46:53,677 --> 00:46:55,679
That's, you know,
the privilege of being human.
898
00:46:55,713 --> 00:46:58,749
(man) Hey, look at that,
taking all the stuff down.
899
00:46:58,782 --> 00:47:00,050
Nice to meet you!
900
00:47:00,083 --> 00:47:01,752
Now the whole world
is gonna meet you.
901
00:47:01,785 --> 00:47:03,186
Hi, hello!
902
00:47:03,220 --> 00:47:04,788
-No, no, no, no, no.
-Don't worry about it.
903
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:06,624
(woman) Okay, you'll be
all over the news.
904
00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:08,692
-Don't worry about it.
-Going to be all over the news.
905
00:47:08,726 --> 00:47:11,161
What is your name?
You're so proud of it.
906
00:47:11,194 --> 00:47:13,029
What is your name?
What is your name?
907
00:47:13,063 --> 00:47:14,197
Show your face!
908
00:47:27,344 --> 00:47:30,147
(Aaron)
When people disclose
909
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:32,282
personal information
about someone,
910
00:47:32,315 --> 00:47:33,984
when they disclose
where they work
911
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:36,219
in order to encourage others
to get them fired
912
00:47:36,253 --> 00:47:37,554
for their speech,
913
00:47:37,588 --> 00:47:40,491
that creates
an intimidating atmosphere
914
00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:43,293
where many people
are gonna shy away
915
00:47:43,326 --> 00:47:44,795
from speaking publicly.
916
00:47:44,828 --> 00:47:48,064
This is really a continuation
of the phenomenon
917
00:47:48,098 --> 00:47:51,835
that's commonly referred to
as "cancel culture," you know,
918
00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:56,740
which reliably creates
a climate of fear
919
00:47:56,774 --> 00:47:58,442
and self-censorship.
920
00:47:58,475 --> 00:48:03,246
When you know that the price
of speaking out on these issues
921
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,784
is as high
as losing your livelihood,
922
00:48:06,817 --> 00:48:08,819
you may reasonably calculate
923
00:48:08,852 --> 00:48:10,921
that it's just not worth
the cost.
924
00:48:10,954 --> 00:48:13,424
(man)
Why do you take them out?
925
00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:18,796
(man)
Why'd you tear that flier down?
926
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:21,164
(woman) Oh, I was just
looking at it closer.
927
00:48:21,198 --> 00:48:22,566
(man)
Mm-hm.
928
00:48:25,035 --> 00:48:30,708
♪
929
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:33,009
(reporter) The death toll
in Gaza continues to rise.
930
00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:37,047
The U.S. is urging Israel
to reduce civilian casualties.
931
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,382
All of this following
a breakdown in talks
932
00:48:39,416 --> 00:48:41,184
to release war hostages.
933
00:48:43,454 --> 00:48:45,622
(reporter) The Hamas-run
Ministry of Health
934
00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:48,058
says the death toll
inside Gaza
935
00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:51,528
now surpasses
15,000 Palestinians.
936
00:48:51,562 --> 00:48:54,231
People were...are calling
for a ceasefire.
937
00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:56,166
Netanyahu has said
that the ceasefire
938
00:48:56,199 --> 00:49:00,237
will not happen until all
of the hostages are released.
939
00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:02,339
At the same time,
Hamas has implied
940
00:49:02,372 --> 00:49:05,141
that the hostages
will not be released
941
00:49:05,175 --> 00:49:07,110
until there is a ceasefire.
942
00:49:07,143 --> 00:49:09,680
So, already we can see
that these groups,
943
00:49:09,713 --> 00:49:11,715
these parties
are at loggerheads.
944
00:49:11,749 --> 00:49:14,084
(protestors)
Free, Free, Free Palestine!
945
00:49:14,117 --> 00:49:16,286
(reporter) Organizers
of this rally called for people
946
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:17,788
to flood Brooklyn for Gaza,
947
00:49:17,821 --> 00:49:19,757
and that's exactly
what they did.
948
00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:22,058
The massive group marched
to the Barclays Center,
949
00:49:22,092 --> 00:49:23,494
then the Brooklyn Bridge,
950
00:49:23,527 --> 00:49:24,962
temporarily closing it
to traffic
951
00:49:24,995 --> 00:49:26,764
to march across to Manhattan.
952
00:49:26,797 --> 00:49:30,367
We're gathered here today
to condemn the ongoing genocide
953
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,802
of the Palestinian people
954
00:49:31,835 --> 00:49:34,772
perpetrated by
the Israeli government
955
00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:37,340
and funded
with U.S. taxpayer dollars.
956
00:49:37,374 --> 00:49:38,709
And we will continue to protest,
957
00:49:38,742 --> 00:49:40,343
not just until the siege
and blockade ends,
958
00:49:40,377 --> 00:49:43,146
not just until U.S.
military funding to Israel ends,
959
00:49:43,179 --> 00:49:45,115
but until Palestine is free.
960
00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:48,084
Somebody that we love grew up
in the West Bank, in Palestine.
961
00:49:48,118 --> 00:49:50,587
Um, what's happening to them
is not fair.
962
00:49:50,621 --> 00:49:52,422
It just shows how corrupt
our government is
963
00:49:52,455 --> 00:49:54,858
and what they're doing
to these poor, innocent people
964
00:49:54,892 --> 00:49:57,294
who have never done anything
to anybody.
965
00:49:57,327 --> 00:49:58,996
I'm all in favor of peace,
966
00:49:59,029 --> 00:50:02,098
but you got to add
"free the fucking hostages."
967
00:50:02,132 --> 00:50:04,001
(protestors)
Palestine will be free!
968
00:50:04,034 --> 00:50:05,803
(woman)
Free, Free Palestine!
969
00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:07,871
(protestors)
Free, Free Palestine!
970
00:50:07,905 --> 00:50:09,540
(cheering)
971
00:50:09,573 --> 00:50:13,209
-We don't want no two states!
-We don't want no two states!
972
00:50:13,243 --> 00:50:17,648
-We want all of it!
-We want all of it!
973
00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:19,182
I think pressure works,
974
00:50:19,215 --> 00:50:22,252
and you should keep pushing
until the dam breaks
975
00:50:22,285 --> 00:50:23,720
and never stop.
976
00:50:23,754 --> 00:50:25,923
This is not enough, okay?
Only...
977
00:50:25,956 --> 00:50:28,826
And...and once
the ceasefire comes,
978
00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:30,493
an end to the occupation.
979
00:50:30,527 --> 00:50:33,263
I don't feel angered
980
00:50:33,296 --> 00:50:35,699
by anyone sharing
and expressing
981
00:50:35,732 --> 00:50:38,735
their solidarity
with the Palestinian people,
982
00:50:38,769 --> 00:50:40,771
with the people of Gaza,
at all.
983
00:50:40,804 --> 00:50:44,541
Um, I just wish there was...
984
00:50:44,575 --> 00:50:47,544
they had more space for us
as well.
985
00:50:47,578 --> 00:50:48,879
They dismissed us.
986
00:50:48,912 --> 00:50:50,280
They dismissed us
987
00:50:50,313 --> 00:50:52,716
for a cause they feel
more passionately about,
988
00:50:52,749 --> 00:50:54,417
they feel is more worthy,
989
00:50:54,451 --> 00:50:56,453
instead of being able
to hold space
990
00:50:56,486 --> 00:50:57,621
for both people's grief.
991
00:50:58,188 --> 00:51:01,959
(woman) Wow, you really don't
care about hostages
992
00:51:01,992 --> 00:51:04,427
and kidnapped people.
993
00:51:04,461 --> 00:51:05,829
Neither do you.
994
00:51:05,863 --> 00:51:08,098
-(woman) Of course I do.
-No.
995
00:51:08,131 --> 00:51:11,068
(woman) Ugh, you have no idea
how heartbreaking it is.
996
00:51:11,101 --> 00:51:13,837
-Like Gaza? Or just Israel?
-All of it.
997
00:51:13,871 --> 00:51:16,607
Wow, this is like
my first "Karen" encounter.
998
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,043
Oh my God, guys,
this is kind of, like, exciting.
999
00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:21,378
(Julia)
On October 6th,
1000
00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:24,781
I really loved
where I was in life,
1001
00:51:24,815 --> 00:51:26,516
and I had a lot of friends.
1002
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:28,785
I like
to consider myself friends
1003
00:51:28,819 --> 00:51:30,487
with a lot of people
at school.
1004
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,155
And then October 7th hit,
1005
00:51:32,188 --> 00:51:36,493
and so many people that I came
into contact with every day
1006
00:51:36,526 --> 00:51:39,262
who I thought I mattered to
1007
00:51:39,295 --> 00:51:42,399
and who I thought
cared about me...
1008
00:51:43,466 --> 00:51:44,835
didn't actually.
1009
00:51:44,868 --> 00:51:49,039
A lot of the fighting
was going on online,
1010
00:51:49,072 --> 00:51:52,409
and then you'd have to show up
to class with these people
1011
00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:55,278
who had just said some
really horrible things to you,
1012
00:51:55,311 --> 00:52:00,918
or who had just posted really
ignorant or bigoted things,
1013
00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:02,886
and you just had to sit
next to them
1014
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,188
and talk about
your homework assignment.
1015
00:52:05,221 --> 00:52:06,857
(cell phone ringing)
1016
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:11,061
(Alana) I very quickly saw
some friends turn away from me,
1017
00:52:11,094 --> 00:52:12,429
and when I say that,
1018
00:52:12,462 --> 00:52:14,364
I mean a lot of it
on social media.
1019
00:52:14,397 --> 00:52:18,234
Unable to share anything
about my family.
1020
00:52:18,268 --> 00:52:21,972
I heard from Palestinian friends
who checked in on me.
1021
00:52:22,005 --> 00:52:27,010
I don't know why other people
couldn't reach out.
1022
00:52:27,044 --> 00:52:28,145
It was silent.
1023
00:52:28,178 --> 00:52:30,413
There is a silence, um,
1024
00:52:30,447 --> 00:52:33,583
that...was heartbreaking.
1025
00:52:33,616 --> 00:52:35,152
(somber music)
1026
00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:36,619
(protestors)
Bring them home!
1027
00:52:36,653 --> 00:52:38,488
Bring them home!
1028
00:52:38,521 --> 00:52:39,790
Bring them home!
1029
00:52:39,823 --> 00:52:42,292
(cheering)
1030
00:52:43,694 --> 00:52:45,295
My name is Alana Zeitchik,
1031
00:52:45,328 --> 00:52:49,365
and I'm here to tell you
about love.
1032
00:52:49,399 --> 00:52:51,702
I love my family.
1033
00:52:51,735 --> 00:52:53,203
And I promised
1034
00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:56,573
I would scream to the ends
of the earth for them.
1035
00:52:56,606 --> 00:52:58,976
For too many in the West,
1036
00:52:59,009 --> 00:53:02,245
the suffering
of hostage families like mine
1037
00:53:02,278 --> 00:53:04,147
has become a footnote,
1038
00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:06,216
collateral damage
in service
1039
00:53:06,249 --> 00:53:09,619
of some perceived
higher universal truth.
1040
00:53:09,652 --> 00:53:11,221
For too many,
1041
00:53:11,254 --> 00:53:14,224
it feels like to care
about one family,
1042
00:53:14,257 --> 00:53:16,093
to love one child,
1043
00:53:16,126 --> 00:53:19,896
is to diminish the suffering
of another.
1044
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:22,165
But the simple human truth
1045
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,634
is that you don't have
to choose.
1046
00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:28,772
You can abhor the suffering
of Palestinian families
1047
00:53:28,805 --> 00:53:32,275
and the suffering
of Israeli families like mine.
1048
00:53:32,308 --> 00:53:34,244
(cheering, applause)
1049
00:53:36,046 --> 00:53:38,414
Do you think that in this space
that we're in right now,
1050
00:53:38,448 --> 00:53:43,120
there's room to have empathy
for the Israelis
1051
00:53:43,153 --> 00:53:44,788
who lost their lives?
1052
00:53:44,821 --> 00:53:47,357
If you turn on
any mainstream channel,
1053
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:49,425
you'll see the stories
of Israelis
1054
00:53:49,459 --> 00:53:51,394
on every screen you look to.
1055
00:53:51,427 --> 00:53:52,695
And so I think, for me,
1056
00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:54,097
I will continue
to use my platform
1057
00:53:54,131 --> 00:53:55,866
to uplift the voices
of Palestinians
1058
00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:57,467
and the struggles
they're going through.
1059
00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:59,202
And they are asking us
and begging us
1060
00:53:59,236 --> 00:54:00,637
to share their stories,
1061
00:54:00,670 --> 00:54:02,438
and that's what
I will continue to do.
1062
00:54:02,472 --> 00:54:04,607
(Linsey Davis) Do you have
empathy for the Israeli victims?
1063
00:54:04,641 --> 00:54:08,078
I think whether or not
my empathy goes to Israelis
1064
00:54:08,111 --> 00:54:11,381
or to Palestinians
is really not the question here.
1065
00:54:11,414 --> 00:54:12,749
What the question is,
1066
00:54:12,783 --> 00:54:14,551
is will we call for an end
to this genocide
1067
00:54:14,584 --> 00:54:16,086
and will we call
for a ceasefire?
1068
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:18,321
(soft music)
1069
00:54:18,354 --> 00:54:25,628
♪
1070
00:54:25,662 --> 00:54:27,397
This is a Jewish community.
We know.
1071
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:29,166
(woman) So what's wrong with
putting up kidnapped posters?
1072
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:30,700
So, why do you come
to people's homes
1073
00:54:30,733 --> 00:54:32,135
and vandalize
with signs of hate?
1074
00:54:32,169 --> 00:54:33,670
(woman) Why do you keep
taking them down?
1075
00:54:33,703 --> 00:54:35,172
(woman) She's not putting it
on their homes...
1076
00:54:35,205 --> 00:54:36,539
(man) My neighbors
keep taking them down
1077
00:54:36,573 --> 00:54:38,441
because their wives
are Palestinian,
1078
00:54:38,474 --> 00:54:40,143
and one of their wives are Arab,
1079
00:54:40,177 --> 00:54:41,878
and they don't want
to see signs of hate.
1080
00:54:41,912 --> 00:54:44,547
(woman) And you know that
they only also kidnapped Arabs?
1081
00:54:44,581 --> 00:54:46,783
Go to your own homes
and put the fucking signs up.
1082
00:54:46,817 --> 00:54:48,451
-You're doing this out of spite!
-We want to show
1083
00:54:48,484 --> 00:54:50,153
that bringing home
the kidnapped people
1084
00:54:50,187 --> 00:54:52,155
-is important.
-Whoever's taking them down,
1085
00:54:52,189 --> 00:54:53,690
-you want to see.
-Or you're taking them down.
1086
00:54:53,723 --> 00:54:55,425
So you want to come
to people's homes,
1087
00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:56,993
and keep putting up
out of spite.
1088
00:54:57,027 --> 00:54:59,662
The people
who posted these posters
1089
00:54:59,696 --> 00:55:01,664
skipped this entire neighborhood
1090
00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:05,602
and found the one
Palestinian restaurant.
1091
00:55:05,635 --> 00:55:07,604
These posters
are being used
1092
00:55:07,637 --> 00:55:11,174
to target Palestinians
in our community.
1093
00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:13,576
The point of those posters,
in and of itself,
1094
00:55:13,610 --> 00:55:15,145
is not to be, like,
1095
00:55:15,178 --> 00:55:17,413
"Look at all these children
that are lost," okay?
1096
00:55:17,447 --> 00:55:19,216
The point of these posters,
1097
00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:20,951
the real point
of these posters,
1098
00:55:20,984 --> 00:55:23,586
is so that someone goes
and fucking tries to rip it off
1099
00:55:23,620 --> 00:55:25,222
so they can fucking film it,
and go,
1100
00:55:25,255 --> 00:55:27,157
"Look,
look at these scary Arabs,
1101
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:30,927
they hate it, they have
no interest in Israeli lives."
1102
00:55:30,961 --> 00:55:34,164
Okay?
It is the next wave of, like,
1103
00:55:34,197 --> 00:55:37,800
don't think about
3,000 murdered children
1104
00:55:37,834 --> 00:55:40,603
with our tax dollars
and our missiles,
1105
00:55:40,637 --> 00:55:44,241
and instead talk about
how...how...how horrifying
1106
00:55:44,274 --> 00:55:46,109
what these guys are doing is.
1107
00:56:23,146 --> 00:56:31,754
♪
1108
00:56:31,788 --> 00:56:33,256
(Aaron)
It may be in some cases
1109
00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:34,857
that people
are putting up posters
1110
00:56:34,891 --> 00:56:38,161
with the intention
of causing anger in others.
1111
00:56:38,195 --> 00:56:40,430
But that's all part
of the debate, right?
1112
00:56:40,463 --> 00:56:43,766
I mean, that's...so that
may be worthy of criticism.
1113
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,337
People may say that,
"Look, by doing this,
1114
00:56:47,370 --> 00:56:51,208
you're not helping
bridge the divide
1115
00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:53,876
between the different sides
of this conflict."
1116
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:56,246
But the people doing it,
at the same time,
1117
00:56:56,279 --> 00:56:57,680
may argue that,
1118
00:56:57,714 --> 00:57:01,351
"This is the way that
I think is most effective
1119
00:57:01,384 --> 00:57:02,518
in expressing my views,
1120
00:57:02,552 --> 00:57:04,254
and I want to put
these posters up
1121
00:57:04,287 --> 00:57:06,856
where people who disagree
with me will see them."
1122
00:57:06,889 --> 00:57:08,791
Maybe they're not doing that
in the most productive way,
1123
00:57:08,825 --> 00:57:11,728
but, again,
that's all part of the debate
1124
00:57:11,761 --> 00:57:14,464
that is allowed to happen
in this country
1125
00:57:14,497 --> 00:57:15,765
under the First Amendment.
1126
00:57:15,798 --> 00:57:17,567
(man)
No, what are you doing?
1127
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,469
Do you know
where they are right now?
1128
00:57:19,502 --> 00:57:21,537
You have any idea
where they are right now?
1129
00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:24,207
I'm not fucking Jewish.
He's not Jewish.
1130
00:57:24,241 --> 00:57:26,776
I don't know if he is or not.
It doesn't fucking matter.
1131
00:57:26,809 --> 00:57:29,112
This is fucking the U.S.A.,
it's New York City.
1132
00:57:29,145 --> 00:57:31,714
You don't have a fucking right
to touch that shit.
1133
00:57:31,748 --> 00:57:32,983
It's a free country.
1134
00:57:33,016 --> 00:57:34,351
You can wave
your Palestine flag
1135
00:57:34,384 --> 00:57:36,019
or say death to the Jews,
or America,
1136
00:57:36,052 --> 00:57:38,088
or whatever you want,
but we can put a fucking sign.
1137
00:57:38,121 --> 00:57:40,723
(distant siren wailing)
1138
00:57:40,757 --> 00:57:42,125
♪
1139
00:57:42,158 --> 00:57:44,527
(Nina) The posters helped
to raise awareness
1140
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,798
to activate people here, sure,
but at the end of the day,
1141
00:57:48,831 --> 00:57:53,370
how that translates
into lifesaving intervention,
1142
00:57:53,403 --> 00:57:55,505
I'm not sure
we're making that leap
1143
00:57:55,538 --> 00:57:58,275
and that the postering
is contributing
1144
00:57:58,308 --> 00:57:59,842
to making that leap.
1145
00:57:59,876 --> 00:58:02,845
That's a hard thing to conclude,
1146
00:58:02,879 --> 00:58:06,549
and I hadn't really thought
about it that deeply
1147
00:58:06,582 --> 00:58:08,385
until you asked the question.
1148
00:58:08,418 --> 00:58:13,089
♪
1149
00:58:13,123 --> 00:58:15,658
I just got tired
of playing Whac-A-Mole
1150
00:58:15,691 --> 00:58:18,328
with these sort of
invisible enemies, as it were.
1151
00:58:18,361 --> 00:58:20,797
And I said, "I'm not doing it
anymore," right?
1152
00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:22,365
The definition of insanity
1153
00:58:22,399 --> 00:58:24,434
is you do the same thing
over and over again
1154
00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:27,703
and you expect to get
a different result...
1155
00:58:27,737 --> 00:58:30,106
which is sort of,
in some ways,
1156
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:34,710
a metaphor for the whole, um,
mess in the Middle East.
1157
00:58:34,744 --> 00:58:36,179
♪
1158
00:58:36,212 --> 00:58:38,714
(Elisha) We wouldn't be moved
to put them up
1159
00:58:38,748 --> 00:58:40,383
if they didn't work.
1160
00:58:40,417 --> 00:58:44,120
It's really effective messaging.
1161
00:58:44,154 --> 00:58:45,088
♪
1162
00:58:45,121 --> 00:58:46,722
I did it for us.
1163
00:58:46,756 --> 00:58:49,159
I did it because I thought
that there's something healing
1164
00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:50,827
about changing
our environment.
1165
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:52,529
There's something therapeutic
about it,
1166
00:58:52,562 --> 00:58:55,465
there's something empowering
about it.
1167
00:58:55,498 --> 00:58:56,899
But it's nice to know
1168
00:58:56,933 --> 00:58:58,335
that we're not just
talking to ourselves.
1169
00:58:59,102 --> 00:59:02,072
No one would rip it down
if they didn't care.
1170
00:59:02,105 --> 00:59:03,739
I don't think
we can convince many people,
1171
00:59:03,773 --> 00:59:05,908
but they clearly have
some sort of power
1172
00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:07,677
or we wouldn't be doing this,
1173
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:09,612
and I wouldn't have spent
this much time
1174
00:59:09,645 --> 00:59:13,083
doing what I'm doing
because they're powerful.
1175
00:59:13,116 --> 00:59:14,284
Just hours from now,
1176
00:59:14,317 --> 00:59:15,985
we expect a pause
in the fighting
1177
00:59:16,018 --> 00:59:17,720
between Israel and Hamas,
1178
00:59:17,753 --> 00:59:20,756
the first step toward
an expected hostage release
1179
00:59:20,790 --> 00:59:22,525
on Friday.
1180
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,295
We don't yet know the names
of who will be in that group.
1181
00:59:25,328 --> 00:59:27,063
And it goes without saying,
1182
00:59:27,097 --> 00:59:30,133
it has been an agonizing wait
for their loved ones.
1183
00:59:30,166 --> 00:59:32,102
♪
1184
00:59:32,135 --> 00:59:34,070
(Alana) My cousin Moran told me
1185
00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:36,939
that Danielle and Sharon
were on the list.
1186
00:59:36,973 --> 00:59:38,341
It didn't feel real,
1187
00:59:38,375 --> 00:59:42,645
and I could not have
any sense of relief
1188
00:59:42,678 --> 00:59:44,981
until I saw them home.
1189
00:59:45,014 --> 00:59:47,683
The Red Cross says
they are in their custody.
1190
00:59:47,717 --> 00:59:49,685
The Israeli military confirmed
1191
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:53,156
that they have been handed over
by Hamas to the Red Cross
1192
00:59:53,189 --> 00:59:55,191
and are making their way
to Israel.
1193
00:59:55,225 --> 00:59:57,059
♪
1194
00:59:57,093 --> 01:00:00,296
(Alana) The first time
they showed clips on the news
1195
01:00:00,330 --> 01:00:03,333
of the Red Cross trucks
coming through,
1196
01:00:03,366 --> 01:00:05,001
I ran up to the TV.
1197
01:00:05,701 --> 01:00:08,638
I could see a glimpse
of Danielle's hair
1198
01:00:08,671 --> 01:00:09,672
from the side.
1199
01:00:09,705 --> 01:00:13,943
♪
1200
01:00:13,976 --> 01:00:16,346
(horn beeping)
1201
01:00:16,379 --> 01:00:17,680
And I just started crying.
1202
01:00:17,713 --> 01:00:19,782
I just saw her,
I knew it was her,
1203
01:00:19,815 --> 01:00:21,551
and she was on her way home.
1204
01:00:21,584 --> 01:00:23,085
♪
1205
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:24,921
And I will never forget
the image
1206
01:00:24,954 --> 01:00:26,589
of Sharon and the twins.
1207
01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:32,529
Sharon, and another woman,
wearing these pink outfits,
1208
01:00:32,562 --> 01:00:36,132
each of them holding
one of the twins sleeping,
1209
01:00:36,166 --> 01:00:39,769
flanked by terrorists
wearing black,
1210
01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:43,339
and, once again,
you know, I...
1211
01:00:44,307 --> 01:00:45,808
had a sigh of relief.
1212
01:00:45,841 --> 01:00:49,379
Um, couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe my eyes.
1213
01:00:49,412 --> 01:00:52,449
I...it was a second miracle.
1214
01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:57,119
♪
1215
01:00:57,153 --> 01:00:58,888
Everyone in the world
was watching it
1216
01:00:58,921 --> 01:01:00,256
as if it was, wow,
1217
01:01:00,290 --> 01:01:03,059
this amazing release
of Israeli hostages.
1218
01:01:03,092 --> 01:01:06,696
And for me,
it was seeing people I love, um,
1219
01:01:06,729 --> 01:01:07,763
return from hell.
1220
01:01:08,864 --> 01:01:10,866
(reporter) They'll be taken
to a military airbase
1221
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:13,536
in southern Israel,
then on to an Israeli hospital
1222
01:01:13,570 --> 01:01:17,373
and ultimately reunited
with their families.
1223
01:01:17,407 --> 01:01:19,008
(Liam) This is our first time
seeing them.
1224
01:01:19,041 --> 01:01:23,379
It's an indescribable feeling
of relief.
1225
01:01:23,413 --> 01:01:32,888
♪
1226
01:01:32,922 --> 01:01:34,390
Fighting resumes in Gaza
1227
01:01:34,424 --> 01:01:37,193
with no agreement to extend
the seven-day ceasefire.
1228
01:01:37,227 --> 01:01:39,362
It's also important
to understand
1229
01:01:39,395 --> 01:01:42,465
why the pause
came to an end.
1230
01:01:42,499 --> 01:01:45,768
Uh, it came to an end
because of Hamas.
1231
01:01:45,801 --> 01:01:50,373
We remain intensely focused
on getting everyone home,
1232
01:01:50,406 --> 01:01:52,008
getting hostages back.
1233
01:01:52,041 --> 01:01:55,445
There are still about
120 hostages remaining in Gaza.
1234
01:01:55,478 --> 01:01:58,681
One of them
is 22-year-old Omer Neutra.
1235
01:01:58,715 --> 01:02:00,016
(protestors)
Bring him home!
1236
01:02:00,049 --> 01:02:01,384
Bring him home!
1237
01:02:01,417 --> 01:02:05,087
(Orna Neutra)
Our son Omer,
1238
01:02:05,121 --> 01:02:07,323
he was born in New York City
1239
01:02:07,357 --> 01:02:09,692
one month after 9/11.
1240
01:02:10,226 --> 01:02:13,863
And here we are
23 years later,
1241
01:02:13,896 --> 01:02:19,168
and he's the victim of another
vile terrorist attack.
1242
01:02:19,636 --> 01:02:23,973
Imagine waking up
every morning
1243
01:02:24,574 --> 01:02:26,276
praying that he, too,
1244
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:29,045
is still waking up
every morning.
1245
01:02:29,078 --> 01:02:32,782
That he is strong
and is surviving.
1246
01:02:32,815 --> 01:02:34,350
(cheering, applause)
1247
01:02:38,954 --> 01:02:41,291
I think the first few days
1248
01:02:41,324 --> 01:02:44,927
when I was thinking
about Omer, I...
1249
01:02:46,462 --> 01:02:51,834
I really was hoping
that he was dead.
1250
01:02:51,867 --> 01:02:56,172
Of course,
I wanted him to come home, um,
1251
01:02:56,205 --> 01:02:59,409
but the thought of what
he would have to live through
1252
01:02:59,442 --> 01:03:02,579
before he got to that point...
1253
01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:04,080
(distant horn blaring)
1254
01:03:04,113 --> 01:03:06,549
But I feel really horrible
saying that.
1255
01:03:06,583 --> 01:03:08,351
(soft, tense music)
1256
01:03:08,384 --> 01:03:13,489
♪
1257
01:03:13,523 --> 01:03:15,625
It's also hard to say
1258
01:03:15,658 --> 01:03:17,660
if the person
who's gonna come home
1259
01:03:17,694 --> 01:03:20,196
is the person
that I remember.
1260
01:03:20,229 --> 01:03:21,798
♪
1261
01:03:21,831 --> 01:03:25,335
I hope he still has his light
at the end of all this,
1262
01:03:25,368 --> 01:03:26,803
and his humor,
1263
01:03:26,836 --> 01:03:29,939
but there's really no way
of telling.
1264
01:03:29,972 --> 01:03:32,742
♪
1265
01:03:32,775 --> 01:03:34,744
My cousins are coping
in very different ways.
1266
01:03:34,777 --> 01:03:36,946
They also have
different experiences.
1267
01:03:36,979 --> 01:03:39,482
Danielle has come home
1268
01:03:39,515 --> 01:03:41,951
with a sense of resolve
and purpose.
1269
01:03:41,984 --> 01:03:44,120
She's become
an amazing advocate
1270
01:03:44,153 --> 01:03:45,588
for all the hostages.
1271
01:04:02,472 --> 01:04:04,940
Prime Minister Netanyahu,
1272
01:04:04,974 --> 01:04:07,076
seal the deal now
1273
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:10,813
and bring them all back now!
1274
01:04:10,847 --> 01:04:14,316
♪
1275
01:04:14,350 --> 01:04:19,121
Sharon, on the other hand, is
in a total state of depression.
1276
01:04:19,155 --> 01:04:20,490
How could you not be?
1277
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:23,092
Not only has she experienced
1278
01:04:23,125 --> 01:04:26,863
a traumatic,
terrorizing kidnapping
1279
01:04:26,896 --> 01:04:31,467
filled with smoke and gunshots
and blood and death.
1280
01:04:31,501 --> 01:04:33,235
♪
1281
01:04:33,269 --> 01:04:35,405
Now she has to wait
for her husband,
1282
01:04:35,438 --> 01:04:37,740
and she knows
what he's experiencing.
1283
01:04:37,774 --> 01:04:39,409
♪
1284
01:04:39,442 --> 01:04:42,178
The children ask about him
all the time.
1285
01:04:42,211 --> 01:04:46,248
I was there,
and they run around the house
1286
01:04:46,282 --> 01:04:49,652
singing a song they made up
about their father, you know,
1287
01:04:49,686 --> 01:04:54,256
saying, "I want my dad,
but he's still in Gaza."
1288
01:04:54,290 --> 01:04:55,491
That's not normal.
1289
01:04:55,525 --> 01:04:56,759
♪
1290
01:04:56,793 --> 01:04:58,227
(laughs)
1291
01:05:52,548 --> 01:05:55,551
I think Hamas
is a vicious enemy,
1292
01:05:55,585 --> 01:05:58,454
and the hostages were
the ultimate bargaining chip.
1293
01:05:58,955 --> 01:06:03,025
At the same time,
what is devastating to me
1294
01:06:03,058 --> 01:06:06,462
is the ways in which Bibi
and his government
1295
01:06:06,496 --> 01:06:11,066
have placed so little emphasis
on the fate of the hostages.
1296
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:13,736
They almost seem like
a nuisance to him.
1297
01:06:13,770 --> 01:06:16,572
It feels like a hopeless place.
But, you know, as Jews,
1298
01:06:16,606 --> 01:06:18,541
we're kind of
cockeyed optimists,
1299
01:06:18,574 --> 01:06:21,110
and the last thing we do
is give up all hope.
1300
01:06:21,143 --> 01:06:26,682
♪
1301
01:07:00,917 --> 01:07:04,720
Gaza's Health Ministry says
more than 30,000 Palestinians
1302
01:07:04,754 --> 01:07:07,289
have been killed in Gaza
since October 7th.
1303
01:07:07,323 --> 01:07:08,858
♪
1304
01:07:08,891 --> 01:07:10,726
(reporter) The IDF says
it has killed or captured
1305
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,763
more than 14,000
Hamas combatants...
1306
01:07:13,796 --> 01:07:15,364
(explosions)
1307
01:07:15,397 --> 01:07:18,334
...but Hamas continues
to recruit, to regroup...
1308
01:07:18,367 --> 01:07:20,302
♪
1309
01:07:20,336 --> 01:07:21,771
...to regenerate.
1310
01:07:21,804 --> 01:07:23,105
(explosion)
1311
01:07:23,138 --> 01:07:25,007
Is this an unwinnable war,
would you say?
1312
01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:28,010
This conflict will only end
with a political solution.
1313
01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:29,979
It won't end
with a military victory.
1314
01:07:30,012 --> 01:07:33,549
♪
1315
01:07:33,583 --> 01:07:37,353
(Julia) I just really hated
seeing them, ripped.
1316
01:07:37,854 --> 01:07:41,557
I pretty much found one
on every single lamp post,
1317
01:07:41,591 --> 01:07:42,959
every mailbox.
1318
01:07:42,992 --> 01:07:44,460
♪
1319
01:07:44,493 --> 01:07:46,428
I wanted to take something
1320
01:07:46,462 --> 01:07:51,400
that I knew was once
beautiful and meaningful
1321
01:07:52,234 --> 01:07:56,639
and restore the beauty
of our community.
1322
01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:01,878
♪
1323
01:08:01,911 --> 01:08:05,848
Yeah, I just ended up creating
a bunch of these paintings.
1324
01:08:05,882 --> 01:08:08,117
♪
1325
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:10,920
One of my professors was like,
1326
01:08:10,953 --> 01:08:13,489
"If Omer comes home
and he were to see this,
1327
01:08:13,522 --> 01:08:14,957
what would he think of it?
1328
01:08:14,991 --> 01:08:17,026
♪
1329
01:08:17,059 --> 01:08:23,733
You need to make it
more hopeful, less angry."
1330
01:08:23,766 --> 01:08:25,367
♪
1331
01:08:25,401 --> 01:08:29,672
Trying to make my experience
palatable for them
1332
01:08:29,706 --> 01:08:34,043
felt like a total cop-out.
1333
01:08:34,076 --> 01:08:37,647
♪
1334
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,350
There was...there was no hope.
1335
01:08:41,383 --> 01:08:44,954
There's...
Nothing about the situation
1336
01:08:44,987 --> 01:08:48,224
would lead a normal person
to be hopeful.
1337
01:08:54,496 --> 01:08:58,200
I think the posters did
a really great job
1338
01:08:58,234 --> 01:09:03,940
of showing who people are
and the world we live in
1339
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:08,043
and who is really there for us.
1340
01:09:08,077 --> 01:09:11,847
I think these posters
kind of threw a stone
1341
01:09:11,881 --> 01:09:15,317
and the ripples woke us up.
1342
01:09:15,350 --> 01:09:18,788
Resistance is justified
when people are occupied!
1343
01:09:18,821 --> 01:09:22,324
Resistance is justified
when people are occupied!
1344
01:09:23,392 --> 01:09:25,127
(Alana)
I think the kidnapped posters
1345
01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:28,297
gave us something tangible
and actionable.
1346
01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:30,466
It was able to provide
a sense of belonging,
1347
01:09:30,499 --> 01:09:33,803
a sense of feeling
like you're doing something.
1348
01:09:33,836 --> 01:09:35,337
And at the same time,
1349
01:09:35,370 --> 01:09:37,572
I think it illuminated
something for us.
1350
01:09:37,606 --> 01:09:39,675
Through the tearing down
of the posters,
1351
01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:43,612
we learned about
this fracture in our society,
1352
01:09:43,645 --> 01:09:48,450
this gaping hole
of, you know, moral, um,
1353
01:09:48,484 --> 01:09:52,321
moral compass
that exists in our society.
1354
01:09:52,354 --> 01:09:55,390
So, shining a light
on something that we need to fix
1355
01:09:55,424 --> 01:09:57,559
is inherently a good thing.
1356
01:09:57,592 --> 01:10:00,262
(shouting)
1357
01:10:01,563 --> 01:10:03,432
(Aaron) Part of the problem
with cancel culture
1358
01:10:03,465 --> 01:10:05,534
is that it runs
on this blinding
1359
01:10:05,567 --> 01:10:08,337
moral and intellectual
certainty, uh,
1360
01:10:08,370 --> 01:10:12,742
where people increasingly view
those on the other side,
1361
01:10:12,775 --> 01:10:16,178
not as people who have
good faith disagreements,
1362
01:10:16,212 --> 01:10:19,081
but as bad people
with evil motives.
1363
01:10:19,114 --> 01:10:21,550
And when you view someone
that way,
1364
01:10:21,583 --> 01:10:25,687
then it becomes easier
to justify shutting them up.
1365
01:10:25,722 --> 01:10:30,192
Censorship and cancellation
don't change people's minds.
1366
01:10:30,226 --> 01:10:31,794
They're not persuasive.
1367
01:10:31,828 --> 01:10:35,164
And what they actually can do
is just cause resentment.
1368
01:10:35,197 --> 01:10:38,534
There's a quote attributed
to Sigmund Freud that goes,
1369
01:10:38,567 --> 01:10:41,804
"The first human to hurl
an insult instead of a stone
1370
01:10:41,838 --> 01:10:43,372
was the founder
of civilization."
1371
01:10:43,405 --> 01:10:45,741
(horn blaring, siren wailing)
1372
01:10:47,009 --> 01:10:48,677
(reporter)
That escalating feud overseas,
1373
01:10:48,710 --> 01:10:51,413
prompting both passion
and protests
1374
01:10:51,446 --> 01:10:52,782
right here in New York City.
1375
01:10:52,815 --> 01:10:54,550
Both countries,
Israel and Palestine,
1376
01:10:54,583 --> 01:10:57,619
have a strong representation
right here in New York City,
1377
01:10:57,652 --> 01:11:00,522
and those airstrikes
can be felt right here at home.
1378
01:11:00,556 --> 01:11:02,859
(indistinct chatter, shouting)
1379
01:11:02,892 --> 01:11:04,894
(solemn music)
1380
01:11:04,927 --> 01:11:06,628
(man) You're not gonna
get close to my friend.
1381
01:11:06,661 --> 01:11:07,963
(man)
He attacked me!
1382
01:11:07,997 --> 01:11:10,099
-You know, I am pro-Palestinian.
-Great!
1383
01:11:10,132 --> 01:11:11,868
-Then hold the fucking flag!
-I am! I am!
1384
01:11:11,901 --> 01:11:13,668
-I want to do it freely.
-Hold the flag!
1385
01:11:13,702 --> 01:11:16,338
-I want to do it freely.
-They rape people!
1386
01:11:16,372 --> 01:11:18,107
They kidnap them!
They murder them!
1387
01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:19,842
-What are you standing for?
-You murder people!
1388
01:11:19,876 --> 01:11:22,078
-You're here, go to Gaza!
-Yeah, I murder people. Yeah.
1389
01:11:22,111 --> 01:11:24,246
(man) A fucking white
supremacist Klan rally!
1390
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,817
White supremacist? Did you see
the color of my skin?
1391
01:11:27,850 --> 01:11:29,819
You calling me
white supremacist?
1392
01:11:29,852 --> 01:11:32,121
(man)
Yeah, you Zionist fucking cunt!
1393
01:11:32,154 --> 01:11:36,358
Shut up, you Zionist,
apartheid, genocidal cunt!
1394
01:11:36,392 --> 01:11:37,593
(woman) I'm a proud Zionist!
1395
01:11:37,626 --> 01:11:39,661
(indistinct)
1396
01:11:39,694 --> 01:11:43,665
You ugly piece of shit!
Walk away, bitch. Walk away.
1397
01:11:43,698 --> 01:11:45,434
(man)
Fucking losers.
1398
01:11:45,467 --> 01:11:48,938
I wish we lived in a world...
1399
01:11:48,971 --> 01:11:50,472
♪
1400
01:11:50,505 --> 01:11:52,774
number one, where there
wasn't a war to begin with,
1401
01:11:52,808 --> 01:11:55,377
and we all lived
in peace and harmony.
1402
01:11:55,411 --> 01:11:57,746
That would be nice,
that would be lovely.
1403
01:11:57,779 --> 01:11:59,081
♪
1404
01:11:59,115 --> 01:12:01,617
I wish, at very least...
1405
01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:02,818
♪
1406
01:12:02,852 --> 01:12:05,454
...we could share the poles.
1407
01:12:06,155 --> 01:12:10,126
They'd put up their images
of their children.
1408
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:12,929
We'd put up images of ours.
1409
01:12:12,962 --> 01:12:17,499
And it would be sad,
and tragic, and angry,
1410
01:12:17,532 --> 01:12:20,336
but we'd all share
the public space.
1411
01:12:20,769 --> 01:12:22,138
I want to live in that world...
1412
01:12:22,138 --> 01:12:23,538
♪
1413
01:12:23,572 --> 01:12:25,707
where we can share the poles.
1414
01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:27,776
(somber music)
1415
01:12:27,809 --> 01:12:37,887
♪
1416
01:12:37,887 --> 01:12:44,793
♪
1417
01:12:44,793 --> 01:12:54,870
♪
1418
01:12:54,870 --> 01:13:04,880
♪
1419
01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:48,257
(sad music)